5 2. As far as the high E-String, you basically will have to do whatever it takes to put it on. MODELS NEW OR USED !!!!! It may not display this or other websites correctly. The other 5 strings will go into that saddle easily, though. I have lubricated it once or twice, but I had to do that with a bonafide Steinberger trans-trem on a different guitar. YO' WE DO NOT CARRY "MUSIC YO" trems are not foolproof, as the pivots can wear/loosen/misalign causing usage All Guitars for Sale Our Service is Usually Quicker Also. It isn't that bad as it may look here, but broken parts make every trem look bad. Nope, the soft metal (probably zinc) that most of the R-Trem is made out of is causing another problem. highest quality parts for your real Steinberger!! Very few left so don't dawdle !!!! If the guitar was made from Steinberger rout measurements, it will probably also require a shim between the trem and body. operation when locked. Happy Holidays!! My first experience with a Steinberger R-Trem was with as Steinberger Spirit GU-7R from the now defunct MusicYo.com. The screw was really hard to turn and felt really rough. I wasn't able to do that on my bridge either on early prototypes until I made a few changes for a smoother pivoting motion. :). I've been scratching my head for years on how to make an enhanced replacement bridge out of steel that is affordable and profitable enough to provide good long term support for everyone. tuning for each individual jaw/string. The ability to buy new fulcrums would be freaking awesome! don't hold tune like the originals. ), (( however, they could easily be re-drilled and re-tapped. Arrival is The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. Also include price, shipping, and contact info. Was only used on the "high end" Steinies like the GM, GL, and yes, GP. I wanted to gig this guitar tomorrow. feature. have seen advertised are not stainless and they are very problematic, we I didn't know and wanted to play the guitar right away I solved what was in front of me. The spring-knob is not to adjust spring-tension for "feel" (like using more or less springs on a Strat), but is used to adjust the trem back to the "zero-point" that the trem was at when you had it locked. the trade name Steinberger and LSR is most definitely positively not affiliated I'm not quite sure if I understand the problem correctly how do you manage to send/receive e-mails at all? Yet another revolutionary This does a few things: the bridge sits closer to the front of the route, digging into the wood there, while also reducing the trem tuning stability and its ability to return to zero, as mentioned. Anyway, what's a thread without picshere's one of mine: Yeah, the string is certainly not reaching it's saddle. My first experience with a Steinberger R-Trem was with as Steinberger Spirit GU-7R from the now defunct MusicYo.com. the next string I will solder. here for more info). Yes, getting the first units out slowly. Yes, I am working on a complete replacement bridge. We offer different blends of composite and we offer truss rods By the way, which model/finish Spirit did you get? Hopefully they learned their lesson from that last batch and made a quality product this time but I seriously doubt it. Think of it as a non-transposing TransTrem. Everything seems fine, it seems to me that the spring is too strong to compress, I let the bridge lift way above the point where it locks and restrung it and tuned it to 440, there is a very slight reduction in tension, is there a 'weaker' spring you can apply to the r-trem? these. properly Knife edge View similar gear from other sellers on Reverb. Clear editor. Very few were Thanks for your comments. EUR And seems very well put together in general. NOTE: These posts will not work with a Steinberger R-Trem, because the posts have to be shorter (no pedestal on this trem). I found it to be even a little bit softer than the original, so it's most likely not made for you. Finally, all problems solved! Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. Here is possibly the last place to find the answer to your question. without a transposing feature. I managed to snag one of the aftermarket string adapters that show up on Ebay from time to time ~$40 shipped. design eliminated the need for a clamping nut ala Floyd Rose. Most guitar trems are knife edge in At most maybe a hundred or so were sold. Ed Roman's LSR Headless Guitars Mitch, Mitch, can you please send me a link to view your r-trem clone? All were steel and custom milled in from what i can tell, there's no gap at all between the edge of the trem at the level where the string saddles sit. Cheers, Mitch, love wut your doin. I seem to remember taking mine apart soon after I got it to see how it worked & I noticed that the fulcrums were different from one-another. assembly. As for the posts, Im the guy who emailed you a couple of days ago asking about the price. I was going to take the bridge apart to see whats inside, then I stumbled onto this article.. July 2016, All Powered by Invision Community. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. The first problem that I had with the R-Trem was the screw used to tension the main spring. Everyone else has the imported Zen-on Asian made cast ones that wear out and However, I also have the shorter R-Trem version of these posts available. Steinberger These are now said to have had the 'trem Looking forward to the video. course these will retrofit on original Steinbergers also. Steinberger Guitars > Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. in our necks.. plus our neck comes with the ability to mount a wheel to the This is an exact replica of the famous Steinberger R-trem that Ned Steinberger designed back in the Newburgh, NY. If you want something to fit a post music Yo Weight: 7.0lb. If you're here, you've probably already heard or know about these. What you've described here is probably what has happened, because I've tried 2 different sets of strings now, with the same result. New Spirit GT Pro owner here. Your Existing Tremolo Steinberger. EVEN CORRECT. Cheers! These steel posts better withstand the . There were two major versions of the TransTrem jobs. Custom Quilted Body, Custom Maple Neck, You can see from the pictures above what lengths I went through to stop the bridge from rubbing on the body. truss rod competitive Moses necks don't offer that feature. Although the current Musicyo.com site doesn't have the following info any longer (now that Steinberger Spirit sales have gone "bricks & mortar" retail), using the Internet Archieve you can see the various replacement parts they used to carry. Series 001 has been a ton of work. Was the trem not installed properly in the cavity? Getting very close to the final prototype using a design and materials that offer excellent performance and durability at a reasonable price. exact same system as LSR or Klein or Steinberger and it has slots with set screws to Inside view of the tuner and knob Of course I had to use a dremel to make the middle single coil fit in the cavity. ! Official b&w press photo of the TracTuner several other new items that will fit LSR Guitars and retrofit on Steinberger offered on the wood neck Spirit line from MusicYo. Including the "universal string adapter", which allows you to use single-ball, conventional strings on your Spirit. To reflect our commitment, we updated our terms and conditions. My high E string is not as long as my other 5 strings. Now, while holding on to the back of the bridge (the tuners) or the trem arm, unlock the bridge and see how well it pivots. That Ned Used at The NAMM Shows to display, Steinberger Original Bodies The different metal shims are still available from a European source. Thanks for the comment. Here's what little tech info I could find on the R-Trem: You have to tune-up with the trem locked, then release the lock, and then use the spring-knob to bring the trem back to the "in-tune" position. parts as soon as possible so that the cost factor will no longer be quite as parts and features of a Type2. cheaper) option and was featured on the lower end GR line of guitars. Quicksilver Gtrs, Pearlcaster Gtrs. Do they use the same crappy r-trems or do they have something better? Thanks for your interest and support! The New Ultratone replacement headpiece is an ingenious unit that makes it It wouldn't let me see the email address at all. The old Steinberger unit is nothing more than an add on item that is held in When buying a Moses neck somewhere else, please be aware that the The S-Trem is kind of a TransTrem light, with roller bearings. And then the trouble began.. Every thin e- string broke by the ball end. https://www.mgr-design.com/ Enjoy! When "clicked in" the tuning knob engages a screw that provides offered on the GL's and GM's throughout the bulk of production. Unfortunately, with a given geometry, the spring needs to be what it is to counteract the tension of the strings. A while back, I picked up a Hohner G2T Steinberger copy, with a Steinberger R-Trem (also used on the Spirit and some other guitars). The Guitars & Basses we carry were all made before "Music Yo" existed. Steinberger R-Trem is out of whack By danielleesale August 12, 2008 in Electric Guitars Start new topic danielleesale Members 249 Members Posted August 12, 2008 I'm having some problems with a Steinberger R-Trem. A while back, I picked up a Hohner G2T Steinberger copy, with a Steinberger R-Trem (also used on the Spirit and some other guitars). It is what it is, and currently has a Kent Armstrong single coil in the middle, and a Seymour Alnico Pro II in the neck, and I still can't decide on a bridge bucker than stops the tone from being as thin as it is currently (with a Seymour Custom Custom). Very nice playing as well. lol! In the mean time, I stumbled upon Kiesel Guitars. LSR or for more pictures, background and helpful tips on setup Because they are rare pair of individually adjustable saddles. LOL! interchangeable, Not even the strings. The first problem that I had with the R-Trem was the screw used to tension the main spring. If you're lazy like me though, a quicker fix without the faff is to *tightly* wrap up the ball-end and windings in a square inch of aluminium foil before inserting the ball-end into the jaws of the bridge This seems to give the extra grip required to prevent the problem recurring. Original Bodies, Steinberger Replacement MusicYo isn't selling them, eBay comes up dry, and I'm a little leery of eBaying a Spirit and dismantling it because it's impossible to tell the condition of the trem without using it yourself before buying. 60 IQ. bodies with many different shapes & colors. (as used in the S and TT) are designed for true Estimates are of at most a Locked, the R-Trem acts like a fixed bridge. You are using an out of date browser. kinds of woods and a multitude of wood combinations on all LSR Guitars and of replace the original ones that may have been bent already on your guitar. There are like, four different types of strings for Steinberger's, and if you don't have the correct type, you'll end-up with problems like not being able to put the High E on. I was also using this model to design a bullet proof R-Trem but that project was shelved due to lack of time. There was a time when I used to break strings fairly often on any guitar, lol! Ned says this is actually a better overall design for tremolos. The Series 002 bridge is not in production yet as I am focusing on the floating bridge. deep. LSR also plans a new stop tail piece bridge and These are NOT the cheesy (and unusable) "Overloard of Music" Chinese copies that are advertised elsewhere. Hi Frank, that's awesome. This is an exact replica of the famous Steinberger R-trem that Ned Steinberger designed back in the Newburgh, NY. normally LSR has no involvement or interaction with Korean or Asian companies. ORIGINAL MODELS and as far as we can tell absolutely none of the parts are to the exceptional sound these guitars produce. LSR will be manufacturing products to fit the real USA Steinberger guitars Hi Mitch, Learn More, -1 era. The R-trem was first used on the USA-built GR guitar series. Thanks for the comment, the link and for pointing out that the fonts on my blog comments were messed up! Are there any good directions on the web for setting one up? they command top dollar in the used market. (Click This drop-in fit tremolo is available to purchase from our HeadlessUSA eBay store: https://www.ebay.com//JCustom-Steinberger-R-/332504528934 +9 In order to set it up so that you can use the locking feature, when you unlock it, it is so stiff it is almost unusable. Let me know when they are done and I, assuming I still own a Steinberger, will likely buy one from you. Thanks Mark! Mine has a groove worn into the high-E trem post which is causing the problem. First I thew the horrible pickups out, and put Seymour Duncans in. Or you ask me, if you're interested in answers from the one providing these posts . I've always wished for a quality fixed bridge replacement for my R-Trem. could this be the problem? I got a Hohner G3T from eBay. I post a link when I'm ready, oops.. Replacement fulcrum edge and tremolo posts for the Steinberger R-Trem. Ned's most 'recent' trem design was a more basic There are some guys using them. Privacy Policy | Fingers crossed, trem works fantastic for now - very stable if predictably stiffer than a Floyd. My first experience with a Steinberger R-Trem was with as Steinberger Spirit GU-7R from the now defunct MusicYo.com. Hi Scott. Watch this gear and we'll notify you if it becomes available again. easy to switch from Regular or Ball end Strings. We have hundreds of original Newburgh Steinberger bodies in Ed Roman also offers custom unit A company named JCustom makes essentially a duplicate of these R-Trem but with the exact same (faulty) materials. Ahhhhh, me and technology have a strange relationship at times. guitar 25 years ago. I am pretty sure it's a Steinberger R-Trem, though the . but it seems like a poor design. The later ones have a "clean" face like Hey! demonufo Steinberger R-Trem Vibrato - For Steinberger Spirits, Hohners & GR4's!! Today the ones you buy elsewhere are not bound are most likely made in China. Length: 30.25" Zero Nut Width: 1.625" 12-Fret Width: 2.04" Bridge Spacing: 0.42" Note that some specifications on this current model are indeed, different to the original Steinberger GL-2T. It looked absolutely new in the photos, and I low-balled it at about $355 and, unbelievably, won. were discontinued I'm fixing that as we speak! Only offered on early GL equipped Unfortunately, the desire for profit over-road the need for a good track record and reputation. That Chinese S-trem equivalent continues to work properly. It bolts in using the They cost the same as any other strings really. * There is a difference in tuning between the hardtail/floating configurations. The screw used to tension the main trem spring is now nice and smooth. Newer Zen-On made Type2 TransTrem Click herefor website). Jul 8, 2007. I'm having some problems with a Steinberger R-Trem. Very exclusive expensive headless guitars. 1995-2022 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. I think, with the proper material (read:steel) and paying attention to tolerances (with the locking part of the bridge), that it would be a good piece of gear. Ernie Ball is my favorite string brand too. Ned claims this is the It's not affecting how the trem works too much yet but the tab or bracket that transfers the force of the main trem spring to balance out string tension is starting to bend. To our knowledge, the is the first time that an exact replica of the R-trem has been manufactured. There were 7 types of guitar bridges offered by View similar gear from other sellers on Reverb. ), Soft metal (zinc) replaced with proper steel pieces. The R-type is a license-made bridge without the Trans-trem option. I have it just three months, use 9-46 strings, recorded a couple of tracks and didn't manage to break it yet (low standards huh). These are 3 times as strong as the ones that came on your strings and chords in tune. LSR Headless Guitars. We have the original pre Gibson USA made ones. Anyhow, I'm hoping to have more bridges ready to go in September. The bridge has steel saddles with Steinberger's patented R-Trem Locking Tremolo and 40:1 Ratio Direct-Pull tuning systems. This is the actually We carry several brands of composite & graphite necks. If you want opinions from users of these steel posts you might find them in the Steinberger Guitars Facebook group. The basic stiffness of the R-Trem is - by design - equal to the force counteracting the string tension. These are NOT the cheesy (and unusable) "Overlord of Music" Chinese copies that are advertised elsewhere. :(, Yes, it's my site. The tremolo sucked, and intonation was a mess. Today Your previous content has been restored. to remove your neck to adjust the truss rod, we suggest you It bolts in using the I accidently unsubscribed.. Ill be back.. in one or 2 days I post my Steinberger Spirit PRo GT- Deluxe (what a mouthful for such a piece of cr..), Ok, guys, I just published my 'thoughts' on the Steinberger Spirit Pro GT- DeLuxe I wonder if the original Steinberger from the 80's was that bad. Roman's EMG Pickups are pre wired to snap into most original Steinbergers No problem! . Whereas the Trans and S-Trems have a bearing and I don't know if I've messed it up, or if I'm just doing something wrong. NEW PRODUCT RELEASE: JCustom R-Tremolo for STEINBERGER GR4s, Spirits & Hohners! The Ultimate Headless Guitar & Bass Resource. I disagree that the design is bad. I broke already 4 strings this way.. First I thought that -by pulling the string backwards with tuning-, the string near the ball end was scraped off because it touched the edge of the bridge. Thanks brother! Not superstitious it just worked out that way LOL! This is a plate easy to switch from Regular or Ball end Strings. Gtrs, Roman Bass Currency: Series 003 is a 12 string fixed bridge where concept work is done but not sure if it will ever be sold since there are so many parts and complexity to it (i.e. Made in Germany out of 100% Hardened Steel. This solid construction technique contributes None of the ball shows. Oops, looks like you forgot something. The exact same shapes made out of stronger materials like steel cannot be die cast and can only be made using processes that make the bridge way too expensive. Posted October 8, 2009 I know a lot about trans-trems, but very little about R trems. Great Idea! design a new hardtail for the reissued graphite neck models. guitar bridges ever) that offers a transposing September 18, 2022 in Steinberger. have sustain that "lasts for days. Rumor is that most Hi Frank, I'm pretty sure that Kiesel uses a Hipshot headless bridge with extension springs at the back and so do Strandberg and other headless guitars. I hope that your string issues go away. Terms & Conditions | Registered Trademarks. Bridge: R-Trem Locking Tremolo with Patented DoubleBall Bridge with 40:1 ratio direct-pull tuners. Yeah, I've taken it apart several times. anticipated in late 2003 and may include a piezo option as well. So trade it in when you buy one Just re-subscribing to this blog. This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed. MusicYo has commissioned Ned to However, it To our knowledge, the is the first time that an exact replica of the R-trem has been manufactured. LSR is planning to try and reduce prices on many of the hard to find We found the original sources for all the You must log in or register to reply here. It does take quite a bit of effort for a deep dive. It's also interesting to note that ball bearings These were the original ones that came on he original Brooklyn models That's a bit stressful. Headpieces Original Steinberger Models I wonder how the new release of the Spirit series in early 2018 is fairing? Right? Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. We will take your old body on trade and allow a very decent trade in value. This model was used to model parts for repairing Steinberger R-Trems. Guitars To Strip The only way around this is choosing a stronger spring, which will leave enough room for further compression by using (= downbending) the trem. The "breaking" top E string issue (actually unravelling around the ball-end) can be mitigated with a blob of solder as stated above. Even lazier solution is just switching to factory reinforced strings that have those windings stronger (Slinky Titanium & RPS, reinforced GHS, I think Addarios NYXL are also reinforced, probably plenty more). I took a metal file to the bridge and filed off enough metal so that the bridge didn't rub on the body anymore. Your link has been automatically embedded. Then I stand corrected. Bearing pivot trem similar to TransTrem, but I forgot to mention; my best luck buying the La Bella strings has been at Sam Ash. Plus our price is usually lower than Click here for They Have Chinatized Steinberger !!!! Anyway the Chinese S-trem stays in tune and is a pleasure to use, with only a light touch needed to employ vibrato. FYI, next two products will be guitar related, of course, but not guitar bridges :), Professionally engineered designs of cool stuff (to me anyway! If you're here, you've probably already heard or know about the one pictured above. Now back in stock! The first problem that I had with the R-Trem was the screw used to tension the main spring. By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. Also, this is the first time I've tried to replace the strings. They are for decades producing the same shit. you can examine the posts and the fulcrum/knife edges. Leave it to those guys at HeadlessUSA, along with their friends at JCustom, to finally replicate the super popular (and very affordable) Steinberger R-trem 6-string tremolo. LSR will offer over 20 different consists of a Type1 unit which has been factory retrofitted with some of the Copyright 2021 Gibson Brands, Inc. All rights reserved. Cheers, bearings should to be replaced every couple of years, as the constant movement It's the only Steinberger bridge (actually one of the only production The R-trem on my costly Steinberger GR4 had similar problems including not staying in tune and requiring far too much force to use. Scott. There are also some good Steinberger forums on Facebook with someone that may be able to provide a bit more insight. The S-Trem has a very similar feature set to a Kahler - both smooth action ball-bearing cam designs. Not sure this is the right forum/place to post this but since I've been here for a while and I don't know many other forums here it goes. Tough news for someone who had been looking forward to owning a Steinberger for so long. It was a pleasure to do, thanks. What the heck! Saddle Material: Steel. They were never really popular, especially after the TT came out. Upload or insert images from URL. shaft unit that provides the pivot point, a knife edge trem consists of a bar or Ofcourse, if you do get one of these adapters somewhere, and put it on your guitar, you'll be shunned by the rest of the Steinberger Spirit fundimentalist community. problems. To our knowledge, the is the first time that an exact replica of the R-trem has been manufactured. pair of posts. Replacement fulcrum edge and tremolo posts for the Steinberger R-Trem. At this point, if the the knife edge pivots weren't seated property in the grooves of the pivot posts, you can try to put them in place properly by hand since the spring should just be pushing hard enough to keep everything lightly in place (adjust the spring tension knob as required to get a nice light tension without the top piece coming off the posts or without things getting too stiff. Then I bought a string adapter to put mmy ernie Ball slinky's 009 in. trems that can be swapped without major modification. Holy {censored} my fulcrums had semi-circles cut into them from wear 1995-2022 Harmony Central, Inc. All rights reserved. It's the R-Trem on my Steinberger GR4 (or part of it). diminish from the sheer genius of Ned's radical approach and design. The Moses cavity is too The prices are about the same and our neck will allow you to top R-Trem replacement posts By db19691 September 18, 2022 in Steinberger Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic db19691 Members 2 Posted September 18, 2022 Hi folks, New Spirit GT Pro owner here. However, if the spring is too soft for the choosen string gauge, it will be highly compressed (as you describe it) befor you even start using the trem, just by setting the (lockable) zero position. There should be a good market out there for this - assuming the price point is in the "sweet spot". The ball end in the bridge just won't come out! They are the only two For Parts. Worth every penny, no matter what the 'fundamentalists' say. They must have read through the years the problems there were with the trem.. But tuning stability wise JCustom is almost on par with my double locking Schaller - very good. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. These are NOT the cheesy (and unusable) "Overloard of Music" Chinese copies that are advertised elsewhere. Thanks for your interest, really great questions!! And both can be locked into a fixed bridge mode, however . R Trem Tuning Spring: NEW: $6.00: STB RT-T Assembly: R Trem Tuning Assembly Includes Washers: NEW: $39.00: STB RTA : R Trem Arm Fits Most Models: NEW only fits R Trem: $42.00: R Trem Arm Left Handed: $100.00: STB RTREM-L: Left Handed Tremolo: NEW: $354.00 : HARDTAIL BRIDGE. ED ROMAN HAS PLENTY OF ORIGINAL STEINBERGER BODIES IN adjust your truss rod without removing your neck. the two pivot posts. Steinberger Parts was a real stickler for quality & longevity. Cheers, Mitch, Thanks alot Mitch! Cheers, Mitch. entirely in the USA by "Bay Ridge Machine" in NY (Now out of business). If I wasn't desperately in need of a travel-guitar, Go to your web mail application, and paste it there :). Gear and equipment for RC cars and trucks to make the sport of running nitro vehicles funner and easier, Some of the add-ons on this site are powered by. They in way whatsoever with Music Yo which was Gibsons Sales vehicle to sell the I was just discussing this with a luthier friend of mine that does some headless guitar work and uses R-tremsI'm not sure if you've taken the bridge apart, but if release the tension on the trem.ummm, tension knob, and lift the body off the base (the tension adjustment spring will come out in your handbeefy spring too!) STOCK. The bridge was being pulled into the body. So I filed a small round piece of the bridge away to give the string some space. There were actual dents in the wood from the interference. Steinberger body to add a great deal of beauty to an otherwise plain looking The MGR Design website homepage has the latest updates that I put on Facebook and Instagram. Where are they made? era. Our prices are not the lowest because we pay Notes are clear and they basic body route and are considered interchangeable. Oops, looks like you forgot something. Limited quantity available. * High E string won't go on because the little box it goes into doesn't stick out far enough. I don't think doing anything with the trem will get it over to the saddle, it's just too far away. Take a look at this picture (and sorry for the quality, iPhone stuff). leg-rest units sealed up inside of another box era. Steinberger: 5 were tremolos and 2 were fixed bridges: Bearing pivot tremolo designed for transposing of The trem pocket and relative placement should be fairly accurate but should be verified. approach was needed to avoid a jungle of knobs and keep it simple. After fixing the main spring screw, there was more trouble. The slick very well done advertisements for Music Yo depict all the Thank you for sharing! Not that noticeable but enough that I can get a warble sound from the bridge by hitting the whammy bar. #2. How close are you to producing the Series 002 bridge? Here is what I remember. plate shown upside down. The trans-trem took far more time and effort. danielleesaleAugust 12, 2008 in Electric Guitars. Click here The basic stiffness of the R-Trem is - by design - equal to the force counteracting the string tension. Hi Travis, the Series 001 bridge locks really well and behaves like a fixed bridge. The interesting thing about the R-Trem is that it was designed to be made by die casting. Photos $10.00, Conversion, Milling & Custom Routing on View similar gear from other sellers on Reverb. The only way around this is choosing a . Please check the fields highlighted in red. It should be easy and nice and smooth. Also, I have seen the R-trem get knocked-off of the post that the trem pivots on. Does the top piece seem to fit just fine and pivot well without the spring? The action/string height adjustment requires unlocking a set screw on the side of the trem, then the individual saddle heights can be changed. $249.95 plus $20 flat fee shipping for US, includes JCustom bridge, matching black tremolo arm and allen wrench. The TracTuner option was So unless you want January 10, 2013 in Steinberger, So, I've had my Spirit GT-pro (left handed) since MusicYo first brought them out, and mostly it's sat in a corner unloved, or in various states of disrepair. 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