In-Stock Looks like it may be all-DSP, which would make it better off the whip, and provide for some other improvements, including the variable bandwidths. Because I broke the bandwidth lever on my 398/909 when I took the back off to clean the controls, it's stuck on narrow, and it is an excellent MW DXer for that reason. Many thanks to SWLing Post contributors, Toy Riedel and Robert Gulley, who note that the price of the Sangean ATS-909X2 has dropped to $259.49 on Amazon.com. The display is: 5025.X and the fine tuning only shows up as the 100 Hz display/digit. We hope you understand, and are grateful for your support. James Click here to donate via PayPal. I hear so many bad things about SSB on the device. I'll answer with another model and say I am very happy with my Tecsun PL-880. The SWLing Post now participates in two affiliate advertising programs with two large retailers that still sell shortwave radios, the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program and the eBay Partnership, designed to provide a means for sites like ours to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to these retailers of radio products. What is the significance of the updated firmware? This was done using the whip antennas only and fresh batteries in each. Auto-Bandwidth, Preset Locking, Upgraded Audio, Wonderful Display, AIR Band, FM Improvements, and On Board Antennas are more Sensitive than Ever. The exception to my joy with the 909 is its tuning wheel. AM Bandwidths: 6.0, 4.0, 3.0, 2.5 & 1.0 SW Bandwidths (For AM mode ONLY) 4.0, 3.0, 2.5, 1.8, 1.0 It automatically selects the optimal bandwidth according to the signal to noise ratio (SNR), bringing the best possible sound quality while ensuring weaker signals can be received. Could there be a problem with my roof top aerial (20 meter cable). BushRadio Tracker. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Is the 909 better than the Sony? This occurs on both my roof top and the external ariel rolled aerial that is included with the radio. Hi, Pat: Its true that AIR band steps are 5 and 25 kHz selectable. Now with the new and improved 2nd gen ATS-909X2, we've made some significant improvements over the functionality while refining the already-excellent features from the original model. I found it does have some more Signal info: It is not in the book but it also has a mixed display where it shows both but no Label. Is it just features or is it reception? Required fields are marked *. Many thanks to SWLing Post contributor, Armin Sander, who shares a link to the Sangean Europe website where theyve posted details about the upcoming Sangean ATS-909X2 (click here to read our. If you are mainly interested in SSB listening, then you will want one of the other recommended radios I listed. On my DX398/909, I haven't noticed increases in volume, but the filtering is very, very effective. Still, as pointed out ECSS works amazingly well which isnt possible on the Tecsun PL-880/990x or indeed the S-8800 because the audio is just shockingly bad, apart from the distortion on the Tecsuns the audio is very muddy. I'm aware of antennas that plug into the jack, but not clip on versions. Cookie Notice In the manual on page 9, under " Setting the Tuning Step " There is a paragraph pertaining to Quick Tuning. Auto-Bandwidth, Preset Locking,. So what did Sangean choose? I especially appreciate its SSB clarity. 1 kHz would be a better choice (this is what the XH Data D808 provides). You are using an out of date browser. Better for me is reception not the bells and whistles. Just picked up HM01 from Cuba and I am in Minnesota USA . for about 8 years. Is anyone into vintage multiband portable radios. And another review, thanks to SWLing.com for the alert. ..see their website.! Ive checked but cant find a way to change the steps. The ATS-909X2 truly smacks of a shortwave portable from the 1990sthe halcyon days of digital portables, in my opinion. Dave's review of the Sangean ATS-909X2 30 Replies Many thanks to SWLing Post contributor, Dan Robinson, who notes that Dave (N9EWO) has posted his review of the Sangean ATS-909X2. In other words, once I let go of both buttons tuning resumed to normal. It's a very good radio! 2 DAB+ VHF band 3 Spread the radio love Would a Sony ICF-SW07 outperform a modern DSP radio? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Adding all that extra functionality mentioned above would push the price into premium territory and would also create too much complexity in a receiver. The detent in the wheel does not bother me at all, but it might bother you. On Board Antennas finally work as they should. Testing 20m on PL880. Im reviewing it, but not sure yet whether Ill send my radio back or not. 3 VHF marine band. JavaScript is disabled. This manual comes under the category receivers and has been rated by 2 people with an average of a 9.3. I'm beginning to get slightly better reception of them in the evening than usual. I think Im good. Many Features Push the Envelope of Tuning Bliss! I had the PL-880 and returned it for not having a decent memory management system were the Sangean does with alpha numeric labeling along with RDS. There's some key bounce, so I had to learn to get my finger off the button more quickly to avoid entering extra digits. 1 - Did they fix the lack of sensitivity when using the built-in whip antenna? Radio Romania International has recently hit S-9 at my location, though with the usual rapid fading. I got my X2 just now and fortunately its the latest 073 firmware. OK, so I tried the AC Adapter, it increases Volume and Signal Strength - but it added some hum. Frequency allocation rule should follow ICAO regulation. Reddit, Inc. 2023. Thanks Bill! This may be our last cycle to hear SW broadcast stations. Our patented 5-level auto . Naturally, Asian stations are pretty strong during our morning hours, as well as New Zealand. DanH's earlier description of this new version lists the removal of the tuning dial detent. Many of you have suggested in the past that the SWLing Post join an affiliate links program. I must admit: as I put the Sangean ATS-909X2 through the paces, Im impressed with this fine machine. Im a bit worried with the 5 kHz choice, considering most european freq now use 8.33 step. Sangean v Tecsun in the Battle of Late Shortwave Era Portables: The ATS909x2 by Dan Robinson Some years ago - actually more than a decade - I decided to give Sangean a shot at winning me over in the shortwave portable category. In SW, it jumps to 100 kHz steps. Am I going to notice a difference between these two? Sangean ATS-909X2: Pricing (Europe), Photos, and Product Details, Sangean ATS-909X2: Production has been postponed. As I understand it 909X2 owners with VER 070 will be given the opportunity to upgrade their radios to VER 073. I love mine, and would hate to be without it for a few weeks if the upgrade doesnt fix something substantial. Ads are what helps us bring you premium content! Keep searching the net for reviews and comparisons. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Still uses two ceramic IF filters (on SW) before the Si4735 DSP chip. There is a new Sangean ATS -909X2 available to buy on the sangean site but I won't be the first to try it out and will wait until it comes up on Amazon so I can easily return it for a full refund if I'm not happy with it at 320 Euro's it would have to be pretty amazing. The same thing happens with the R75's keypad when keying in a frequency. One thing I've noticed with the 909X is that the signal strength meter is kind of sluggish; it doesn't quite keep up with fading, or in the case of SSB, the voice peaks. Your email address will not be published. I have a bad habit of keeping my finger on a control too long after using it, so if my hand isn't steady enough, I can easily move off the frequency by accident. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. For ssb on SW, the sensivity on the telescopic antenna is not good, you need a 9:1 balun, included in the tecsun 880 or old sony receiver. The latest answer, direct from Sangean engineers, is that it has DSP for both FM and AM receiving modes (including shortwave), but not for SSB. You don't even need to buy the item you are linked to. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This means that by clicking on these links, a small percentage of the purchase price for goods you purchase from these sellers will help support our sites running costs. Sangean ATS-909X2: Dans final evaluation post firmware upgrade, Radio Deal: Sangean ATS-909X2 price drop on Amazon, Newbie request for sub $500USD wideband listening equipment. Now with the new and improved 2nd gen ATS-909X2, Sangean has madesome significant improvements over the functionality while refiningthe already-excellent features on the original model. But mine got stuck in this feature. A couple of years ago I conducted a small experiment with my Sangean ATS-909X and my Tecsun PL-660. As for the 909X2 itself, its a capable receiver but nowhere near as good as the original ATS-909 when it comes to SSB monitoring. A real improvment should be Sangean ATS-909X, and Sony ICF-SW7600GR go head-to-head . In North America we use 12.5 kHz spacing. The present 909X also uses discrete FETs for MW and SW, and the IF chip is used normally for MW and SW. Dan Robinson received the following. So I had to reset the radio, now it's back to normal. Click here to view. I have one. Im sure the ol COVID-19 excuse might get rolled out but an official response would be nice versus just guessing. SANGEAN ATS-909X has been widely regarded by ham radio enthusiasts as one of the best portable shortwave radio out there. For DX, manually scrolling through the bands is the norm. #1 Sangean ATS-909X2 First Impressions Amazon has this for $289.01 right now. What for ? The SANGEAN ATS-909X has been widely regarded by the ham radio community as one of the best portable shortwave radios out there. It was updated to more modern specs, I think the company was called Radio Labs. Jun 1, 2005 Messages 443 Location /usa/oh/cmh EM89kx Mar 6, 2021 #21 Another note: At some times when I put my hand over the display the volume does change (up) I only notice it when there is no signal: Like now for 3330.0 (CHU) no sign of chu but a bit of a tone and it increases when I put my hand over the display There's also the option to manually adjust the bandwidth . I have an older ATS 909. There is a built in world time / local time clock. Not a big problem, as I mainly use my ears to judge the strength or the signal to noise ratio, anyway. I think the below link is what made me decide on it, the model I have and any other new models do not seem to have the early firmware problems he mentions in the review. This is most noticeable if I listen out on the balcony, because street noise from cars going by makes it hard to hear the radio. I'm satisfied with the equipment I've got -- but very dissatisfied with current propagation conditions, of course. Has anyone here had a problem with the signal strength when connecting an external aerial to the 3.5 jack on the side of the radio. Many Features Push the Envelope of Tuning Bliss! The 909X2 is perfect for band scanning as you describe it. The radio will now be able to detect faulty batteries and locate itsposition in the battery compartment when plugged in for chargingunder standby mode. Page 19: Specifications Whats up with the continued unavailability of the 909X2 on the US Amazon site? I never noticed any overload on the 909 x2 even with my 134 foot long EFHW Antenna. Its a pleasure to operate. In Daves Review, just after the Pros and Cons, there is a box which has a link to the Sangean ATS-909X Software Version Change Sheet. Privacy Policy. FM is Absolutely Amazing. The firmware (Sangean calls it software) on my radio is VER 070. What Ive been trying to understand from the reviews is the suitability for bandscanning just turning the tuning knob at a slow clip and listening for signals. #1 From the SWLing.com blog. No mute! by Darkstar1878 Sangean ATS-909x2 WLA180 antenna View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit. I have the exact same question, Bill! This radio had VER 070 firmware installed. In a review I read much earlier prior to the X2's official release, it was supposed to display the strength in S-units. You must log in or register to reply here. You are using an out of date browser. Also, European stations, if they come in at all here, are usually very weak, even when the gray line is available on both ends. If your radio has no Spurious Tones you are in for a treat. Our patented 5-level auto bandwidth control made its debut on the 909X platform. I could not get it out of this mode. Not too much has changed in the radio's appearance, except for the missing circular Fast-Slow tuning indicator to the right of the frequency, probably to make room for that decimal value. The Sangean ATS-909X2 AM FM LW AIR Shortwave SSB Portable Radio is a promising refresh of the outgoing 909X. Click here to view a list of all sponsors. The Tecsun PL-880 beats it in this department. Not sure about differences, but the modern ATS 909 is up to par. Anotherworthy upgrade is the newly designed smart battery compartment. ATS-909X2. Some notes on Bandwidth: (see attached photo) I could not find this information anywhere, but it is on the box lip. The mention in this review of a detent present behind the tuning wheel is a negative. Then again, all the previous 909 series receivers (ATS-909, ATS-909X) only have one SSB filter so they probably thought that one was sufficient for people buying this receiver who would mostly use it for broadcast listening. I am mostly a SW and MW broadcast listener. Wait one year before buying? Overall excellent performance. SSB may be on the weak side, but there is so much of everything else, that you may find yourself happy owning this receiver. The Sangean 909X2 at Amazon: https://amzn.to/3vJljwg The Tecsun PL-990 at Amazon: https://amzn.to/3tKHBLD The Tecsun PL-880 at Amazon: https://amzn.to/35Pfcfo The Eton Elite Executive at Amazon: https://amzn.to/3vWakQ6 Todd's Shop: https://www.amazon.com/shop/todderbertFeatures I like about the new 909X2!FM Reception is Excellent.Fast RDS Capture.Large Display.Preset Locking.AIR Band Reception is Excellent.Scan Feature for AIR Band.Improved Speaker Audio.On Board Antennas are More Sensitive.Smart Charging of NiMH Batteries.Auto Band Width Feature.Signal Strength/Signal to Noise Ratio Displayed in dB.Three Timers.External Antenna Jack for the Entire AM Band.Headphone Experience is pleasant on the Normal Tone Setting.Included AC Adapter, Shortwave Reel Antenna, Carrying Case, and Headphones.Three Separate Memory Banks for Different Users/Locations.Features that could Added or Improved on:Quality Control on Spurious Tones.Extend the Volume Control Knob.Add Band Width Options for SSB.Improve Volume while on SSB.Overall, this radio gets a big \"Maybe\" recommendation from me. While no radio is perfect, the 909X2 has enthusiast-grade characteristics. Sangean made effectivly DAB+ FM standalone receiver, but in Europ it should be a great idea that the flagship receiver of sangean have DAB+ too. I use it for band scanning all the time. Also, S-units are not used on the meter in the original version, where it's only marked 1 to 10. JavaScript is disabled. Is it worth it to send back to get the 70 upgraded? If you think you'll get a ham license in the future and want to drop a little more money, most modern ham HF radios also cover shortwave, and could serve you later when licensed. #1 Overall, the Sangean 909X2 is an excellent receiver. I did some more digging, and found the following in a review by Bob Grove in Monitoring Times, November 2011: There has been considerable debate on chat rooms about whether or not the ATS-909X has DSP. you can pick this radio up at RadioWorld in Toronto, Canadaa! There is no muting between frequency steps. Reactions: BushRadio and foxfire. 14670 rarely comes in, even when things are hopping on the 20 meter ham band. If someone didnt want to spend so much on a portable radio then I highly recommend the Tecsun PL-680, its not a dsp radio so it sounds really great and ECSS works really well too. Central Minnesota on long wire and changing bandwidth. So the Canadian price of the 909x2 would be $148 more than that of the 909x. 2 - I see some scuttlebutt about a "version 73" firmware, to be released soon, maybe the next manufactured batch. I brought mine direct from manufacturers. The ATS-909X2 will display FM RDS / RBDS with PS, PTY, RT and CT features for station name and clock in areas where this service is available. (Our Sangean ATS-909X model review available here) (N9EWO Photo) N9EWO Review : SANGEAN ATS-909X2 (as Stock) Firmware Versions Tested: 070, 073 Europe uses 8.33 kHz channel spacing. Looks like there are serious shortcomings yet to be worked out (if possible, via new firmware). The SANGEAN ATS-909X has been widely regarded by the ham radio community as one of the best portable shortwave radios out there. Joined May 3, 2015 Messages 140 Likes 108 Location Indianapolis, IN. JavaScript is disabled. Cookie Notice JavaScript is disabled. 5 kHz. View the manual for the Sangean ATS-909X2 here, for free. This manual is available in the following languages: English. Thread starter Natch; Start date Jun 29, 2016; Natch Scout. Gear / Kit. Maybe an expected restock date? Forums. . Sweet! This receiver work with the Air am vhf band, to receive weather forecast marine vhf could be a plus. The screen itself is more colorful; on mine the row of memory numbers at the bottom, as well as the signal strength meter, both have a gray background, while on yours the background is greenish blue. Thank you, too, for your support of these sites. Refer to your external recorder's user manual to determine whether your external recording device is compatible with timer activated recording. By far the best portable I ever has was the Eton E1 they even had Passband tuning but I do not want one that big now! Does the radio mute between frequencies while tuning? I'm sure the 909X is much the same, as the two schematics aren't all that different (aside from the FM DSP, and there are different transistors and IF chip used -- the configuration, however, is basically the same. Bob Zanotti presentation to the Fair Lawn ARC, New Facebook Group for Pikes Peak Breaking News / Scanner Tips. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Other features include: Stereo/Mono switch, RF gain, squelch, auto scan and flip-stand. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment Clear-Lock-633 . I don't know why you'd experience an increase in volume, but the 909X has the SW signal (and the MW signal as well) running through four IF cans and three to four ceramic filters. This i. The SANGEAN ATS-909X has been widely regarded by the ham radio community as one of the best portable shortwave radios out there. http://www.javiation.co.uk/833.html minimum step size in AIR band should be 8.33kHz instead of 12.5kHz. The immediate predecessor was the ATS-909X which replaced the earlier ATS-909. I don't remember all what made me decide on it about a year ago but I did the same research on comparable models in this price range and this is what I have now. Your email address will not be published. What is the difference and which brands are better than others? The price was actually $362, not the $412 I thought it was; that was with the freight and taxes. Woodbridge, VA. ATS-909X2 Description Hide. FTIOM & UBMP, April 18-24 1674 memories are featured. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Many of our links now function as affiliate links. Sometime in April Sangean USA will be distributing 909X2s with VER 073. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. All rights reserved. I just checked my invoice for the 909x. I dont know how you think this radio is unavailable on Amazon. Electronics. Want to buy me a cup of coffee? Thanks for the quick reply Thomas. Has this changed with the X2? Can you give a rundown on what exactly is new in version 73? The 909 is no different. But, then again, there are hams who can still afford the latest radios, so perhaps sales of this new Sangean will be enough to keep them producing them until the sunspots improve, as well as the overall economy. Reddit, Inc. 2023. Is it true ? My best shot is to the south or southwest, with the exception of Brazil in the southeast direction. The ATS-909X2 is primarily a shortwave receiver. Ya might find good info. For more information, please see our ^^^^ On the present day 909X the DSP chip is only used in the FM chain, where it replaces the FM Front End chip and the FM stages of the IF chip with DSP. Ive been a SWL since the mid 80s and owned a ton of different portable receivers the X2 is by far my favorite. As for CHU, I can never pick it up on 3330 here, and the few times I hear it on 7850 it's still quite weak. Jul 18, 2016 #13 The ATS-909X2 is the third generation of a well-known series of top-of-the-line multiband portable radios from Sangean. Helpful replies are most appreciated. Click here to view. I read 25 and 5 kHz. I'd like to get a shortwave and a family member suggested the Sangea or the Sony. The only true difference I noted was in the display of the signal strength as the Tecsun always showed a stronger signal being received than the Sangean. What about the Air band steps ? SANGEAN ATS-909X has been widely regarded by ham radioenthusiasts as one of the best portable shortwave radio out there. The scan feature on all the shortwave portables I've owned over the years has tended to skip weaker db signals. Two strategies to improve Sangean ATS-909X sensitivity, http://www.monitoringtimes.com/2011buyersguide.pdf, Radio & Radio Accessories: AM FM, Shortwave, Emergency, Pocket, Headphones and More, Sony ICF-SW7600GR Review | The SWLing Post, Mega Review: the Tecsun PL-880, PL-660, Sangean ATS-909X, and Sony ICF-SW7600GR go head-to-head. Tuning from 5000kHz to 16000kHz, I found: No signal could be found on one that the other could not tune. With an external 50 ohms antenna its fine. Will one pick up stations that the other will not? Current Stock Status At These Ham Radio Outlet Locations, 1674 Station Presets with 3 Individual Memory Banks, 5 Tuning Methods: Direct Frequency Tuning/Auto Scanning/Manual Tuning/Memory Recall/Rotary Tuning, Fine Tuning & Quick Shift Tuning Controls, 3 Alarm Timers with Radio or HWS (Humane Wake System) Buzzer, 42 Time Zones with DST Setting & 2 Editable City Names, Information Indications for RDS/PS/PTY/RT/SNR/RSSI/Memory Bank, SSB (Single Sideband): USB/LSB 10 or 20Hz/Fine Tuning Step, Squelch Function for Adjusting the Receiving Threshold to EliminateWeak Transmissions, Advanced Battery Charger with Faulty Detection Feature, Editable Station Display up to 10 Characters. Thank you! The only true difference I noted was in the display of the signal strength as the Tecsun always showed a stronger signal being received than the Sangean. Perhaps Sangean was not pleased with the other filters and decided to just compromise ? 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